17a. Question: What Is The Difference Between These 2 Statements?
What is the difference between those believing in Christ Jesus who say;
#1 "Jesus of Nazareth did not accomplish these things,
during His earthly ministry, but He will do so at His second
...and those rejecting Jesus as Messiah who say;
#2 "Jesus of Nazareth did not accomplish these things.
but when the true Messiah finally comes, He will do so
at his coming."
17b. Answer: NO Difference
There is no difference between the two statements, as both are making
the confession that Jesus of Nazareth did not
fulfill the prophecy of the Messiah of Israel, as measured against the
criteria given by the angel Gabriel in Daniel 9:24.
In other words those who say they are believers, who make statement
#1, are in fact saying the same thing as those who denounce
Jesus of Nazareth as being the Messiah in statement #2. Each say that Jesus
did not do those acts spoken by Gabriel.
Recommendation: Do not sign off on this nonsense. Statement #1
is a cloaked statement of un-belief in Christ. The reason they think this
is because they are making the same error as those who deny that
Jesus is the Messiah in Statement #2.
Those who make Statement #2 looked for worldly or earthly fulfillment
the Messiah's deeds of Daniel 9:24, completely and spiritually blind
to the reality of far greater accomplishment of overcoming sin, death
and the Devil which Christ Jesus did do. No, Jesus of Nazareth is not
the person lacking accomplishment in this scenario, those who make
statement #1 and #2 are.
17c. Worldly Understanding vs Heavenly Things
When the Lord Jesus Christ walked among us during His earthly ministry,
He spoke to Nicodemus about the difference between earthly and heavenly
(physical and spiritual) understanding of the matters of the Kingdom of
God, as Nicodemus was lacking such heavenly understanding at the time.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
So then, there does exist a difference in understanding. This fact is none the less
true today for those who sought only the physical, immediate, and limited fulfillment
of Daniel 9:24. This following table illustrates the difference.
|Daniel chp.9 Prophetic Event
|The Coming MESSIAH
|| Seeks a military liberator only, to free the flesh from
physical and political bondage by the Babylonian
|| Seeks a Messiah who would end the warfare between
themselves and Almighty God, freeing the soul and
spirit from the captivity of Satan.
|To Restore Jerusalem
||The physical rebuilding of a city only, for the purpose
of national identification.
||The re-establishement of the Law as seen by
the activity of Ezra, a true restoration of
|"...to finish the transgression"
||To end the transgression of Babylon, Persia, Rome
against the nation of Israel
||To end the transgression of Israel against GOD
|"...to make an end of sins"
||to produce self righteousness for adherence to the Law of Moses
||to receive the righteousness of the Messiah who would fulfill
the Law of Moses and then make an end of the
law for the purpose of righteousness to all who believe
in Him [Romans 10:4]
|"...to make reconcilliation for iniquity"
||to once again be able to offer animal sacrifice for the
atonement of sins at the rebuilt Temple of God.
||to witness the once-and-for-all atonement by His own blood
of the LAMB of God who takes away the sins of the entire
|"...to bring in everlasting righteousness"
||to witness immediate worldwide adherence to the Law of Moses
||to witness the ushering in by the presence of the Son of
God, everlasting righteousness by the very presence of His